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Buckeye Problems Nowhere As Bad As USC

Posted by pacmanxu on June 14, 2011

I’ve been steadily putting my facts together to talk about this insane notion that what Ohio State is guilty of is anywhere close to being as bad as what happened at USC.  In doing my research, I found someone who had already analyzed it to perfection as the situation stands right now.  So rather than waste my time, I’m posting his version here and giving him full credit for saving me time.

This was posted by Phil Harrison of College Football News:

Phil Harrison – OSU’s Punishment Should Be Less Than USC’s
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It’s easy to get caught up in the passion of the moment and debate the mystery of what necessitates a “major NCAA violation”, and in so doing consider them all the same. While we’re at it, we would be remiss not to reiterate the obvious – that so far, despite the musings of Sports Illustrated, ESPN, and others, OSU has only been found to have had its coach lie about the covering up of the tattoo scandal. Remember, the players involved in said incident have already made their mea culpas and received their punishment.

It wouldn’t be the first time that ESPN has overblown a story (see Maurice Clarett and Les Miles going to Michigan as exhibits A and B). A story built on allegations and a piling on of offenses from what appear to be everyone with an axe to grind is never the worst case scenario. The lesson to remember here is never drink the toxic poison until after checking the vitals (think Romeo and Juliet).

Everybody calm down.

So, with what we have on the table then as known acts requiring penance – which is the only way you can answer this question – there is a strong argument to support a less severe punishment for Ohio State than what was doled out to USC as a result of the Reggie Bush fiasco.

In both cases it’s really about improper benefits and compliance. As previously mentioned, with the Buckeyes we are talking about players selling memorabilia for tattoos and a coach lying about knowing it was happening, and failing to notify compliance. The lying is the worst part of course, but the improper benefits (those acknowledged to this point) are limited to members of the Scarlet and Gray exchanging goods for services. Yes, it looks like the other cleat may have dropped with the announcement that Pryor is out and the “thousands” of dollars he allegedly made on memorabilia (which may very well prove to be true). But even if Pryor was driving cars around town and making money on things that he owned, you’d still find it difficult to argue that the OSU situation is worse than what USC was doing, again, given the entire magnitude of what we know.

OSU had one man – Tressel – bypassing compliance. USC was cited for failing to HAVE a compliance office – a complete one at least – which created a culture that failed to monitor. OSU had a failure of Tressel, and he is no longer employed by Ohio State.

But back to allegations vs. findings. To date, there has been more piling on with this situation than a WWE cage match. If all of these many allegations are true, why can’t find anyone credible to come on the record and legitimize any of this? So far, we have a player who was in the doghouse his entire career, convicted felons of tattoo parlors, widely-reported allegations which have later proven false ($0 car purchases) and “ex-friends” with their faces hidden on camera blowing the whistle as if they are testifying against the mob. Find me some real corroboration that the NCAA can use, and then we can agree that there should be more to this. Until then there is nothing concrete, and we are all still in a bit of a wait and see mode until August.

How about the other side of that coin – and money being a good segue. Let’s ‘fight on’ to USC and talk about the scope of everything that we do know. Did we mention outrageous benefits? How does a tattoo compare to living in a $700K house, which is what Reggie’s folks got the benefit of? Did you know that a house can provide you with shelter? You can also sleep in it, eat in it, and have company over. Company that might just give you fancy clothes and airplane tickets. One more thing-a house is worth a lot of dough. Add that up with all of the other proven benefits that Bush and his family received (hotel stays, suits, airfare) and it is much more cash than anything that we are talking about with OSU – even if Pryor was signing his name on horseshoes and footballs 24×7.

To make matters even more egregious in the Bush affair, the gifts came as part of an agreement that Bush would use the particular agent after his “amateur” days were over. Once agents get involved (which has not surfaced in the Ohio State case), things hit a whole new level of sanctions. The NCAA may be fickle on a lot of accounts, but it has a stern hand with its tolerance of agents.

Add into that a compliance office that was several people shy of a full house, and Yahtzee!

Let’s also not forget that at the same time, the athletic department in University Park was dealing with another fallen star, and from another sport at that. USC’s basketball program was dealing with the fallout of O.J Mayo (who by the way is from Ohio) and more improper benefits related to agents. It’s bad enough that the star of your football team is on the take, but when impropriety makes its way to the other “revenue” sport, its screams lack of control. This had to factor in the NCAA’s punishment, as both situations were a part of the same investigation.

The governing committee on infractions has shown a reputation for disciplining programs based on their findings of the hard facts, but they have also shown that it is the spirit of those transgressions that can weigh heavily on the punishment. They may not always (or rarely) do it right, but it does go into the recipe. The ingredients in USC’s case caused more harm to the athletic body than what is going on by the banks of the Olentangy.

Everyone is screaming for OSU to get “fair treatment” and receive just as much timeout in the corner as USC (if not more). Put down the pitchforks. If everyone wants fair treatment, then I am all for it. Fairly assessed, the bankrolling of houses, agents, airfare, and fictitious jobs far outweigh discounted tattoos and the subsequent cover up that we know about. Particularly as the coach with the million dollar job and star player having already been kicked off of campus – sorry, left of their own accord. Neither Bush nor USC’s Pete Carroll were ever punished directly (other than losing a trophy).

If some of the other allegations can be substantiated by the NCAA, perhaps then the two situations become closer, but OSU’s situation still doesn’t reach the level of abominations as those that occurred at USC. The Ohio State program should and will get hit hard by the NCAA, but if the ultimate outcome equals or surpasses USC, I would find no fault with Buckeye Nation getting a case

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Jim Tressel Guilty; So Now What?

Posted by pacmanxu on March 15, 2011

I was going to put my own thoughts to this topic and let it fly, but I found someone else who wrote exactly what I was thinking, so why spend all that time?  Steve Czaban penned the following on Czabe.com, so many thanks to the Czabe for calling like he sees it.

STAND BY YOUR MAN by Steve Czaban

Jim Tressel made the right call.

No, I’m not crazy.

Mind you, Tressel is no saint. He’s no role model for pure and un-fettered honesty. He’s just a college football coach.

If you were fooled by the sweater vest, glasses, and nickname of “Senator” then shame on you.

The guy is paid to win college football games. To recruit, practice, and play as hard as possible, exactly 1 inch from the guardrail of NCAA rules.

Run enough laps at that speed, and eventually you’re gonna wreck yourself.

It happens.

Go ahead, name for me the cleanest college football program that has won anything of note in the last 20 years? The clean and honest ones? They’re losers.

The top programs in D-1 alternate between periods of “oops, you caught me” and varying levels of dominance. USC, Alabama, Michigan, Miami, Texas, Oklahoma. They all have the prison tats to prove it.

Now, Ohio State.

Geez people, stop hyperventilating on this one.

Tressel was in a tough spot. For starters, his primary responsibility is to his employer – The Ohio State University.

His employer, is standing by him, without blinking.

That fact alone, really ends the argument. He made the right call.

Oh sure, in the world of a sports columnist – like, say Christine Brennan - you can swaddle yourself in the absolutes of black and white, truth and lies, right and wrong.

You don’t have to beat Michigan every year, and bring home a big fat BCS payday come New Year’s.

He does.

So here he was, made aware of some penny-ante violations by a few of his star players with a monster season on his racket. Given how capricious the NCAA’s enforcement policies are, who knows how severe the penalties would be if you decided to go “Boy Scout” and tell the whole truth?

In some cases, the NCAA is as heartless as a librarian on late fees. In others, they are as lenient as a substitute teacher.

Dez Bryant just talks to Deion Sanders and they say coldly “your career is over”.

Then you have the Cam Newton saga from this fall. It was like the NCAA walked in on its daughter (Auburn) getting undressed and felt up in her room by a boyfriend they’ve never met.

Instead of throwing the boyfriend out of the house and calling the cops, they just said “oops, sorry” and sheepishly closed the door.

So if you’re Tressel, this was a tough one.

It’s not like you are actively cheating as a coach, or a program. Your kids are just being idiots. But at least they aren’t holding people up at gunpoint, or sexually assaulting their girlfriends.

On the one hand, the rule is stupid, but it is a rule.

Then again, the violations may just end up sleeping with the fishes.

You have an employer, and they pay you handsomely for not just periodic success, but bankable success.

Plus, you have another 95 kids or so, who have done nothing wrong, and are expecting to enjoy a possible season of a lifetime.

And what, he should just run to the phone and call the NCAA on this?

Yeah, sure. So they can lick their finger, stick it up to the wind, and make some decision that makes no sense?

I wouldn’t. Neither would Tressel, apparently.

Tough call. Right call.

So it didn’t work out. The violations came to light. So what?

The kids will get suspended next year for five games. Tressel gets a minimum of two, maybe more, and takes a 6% pay cut for a single season. (Yep, that’s $250,000 out of a $4 million salary)

Ohio State says they are still thrilled to have you as a coach.

2011 won’t likely be a season for the Best Of Buckeye Football DVD.

And the big time business of Division I college football marches on.

Cluck away, all you righteous columnists. But this is how the game is played.

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Buckeye Round-up: Recruiting

Posted by pacmanxu on February 8, 2011

The Buckeyes finished off another great recruiting seasons as National Signing Day came and went last week.  There were two surprises this year that came down to the final days.  Usually Jim Tressel does not have much but disappointment on Signing Day when it comes to big-time recruits deciding on their school.  More often than not, those guys that are considering OSU have chosen to go elsewhere.  A small collection of these incidents have given some the impression that JT can’t close or that OSU has had some disappointing overall classes, but OSU is consistently in the top 10 nationally.

Back to this year.  Tressel had firmed up one of the best classes in the country before Signing Day ever came around.  There were a few guys on the radar, but only two that anyone thought we had a real chance at landing.  One was a consensus top LB, Curtis Grant, from Virginia.  The other was a Cleveland Glenville OL Aundrey Walker.  Grant was a 5-star LB and Walker a 4-star OL.

Coming into the last few days, it appeared that Walker was an OSU lock and Grant was leaning toward Florida.  As it happened, Walker did a 180 and committed to USC, where no doubt Lane Kiffin did something illegal (as he usually does) to swing Walker.  With a solid but unspectacular OL class for OSU, this one hurt a little bit.  But Christmas came early shortly thereafter when Grant committed to OSU, giving the Bucks one of the best LB classes maybe in the history the school.

Grant’s commitment gave OSU two steals from Florida after the Urban Meyer retirement, both highly touted linebackers…nice.

To sum up the rest of the class, OSU got a total of 22 National Letters of Intent (NLOI), which are binding commitments from players, making the process official.  They still have one more that is outstanding, a 6-5, 340 lb OL from Cleveland who got into some trouble the day before.  If that situation clears up, he will make the class 23 strong.

Out of the 22 that gave OSU the #3 recruiting class in the country according to Scout.com, the most reputable recruiting site for football of the big 3 (the others being Rivals and ESPN), 9 were in the top 10 nationally for their positions, including the #1 & #5 OLBs,  #1 C, #1 Long snapper, #2 QB, #5 CB, #8 &10 DTs, and the #9 DE.

On a broader scale, OSU had 13 recruits that were ranked in the top 15 for their positions nationally, including three 5-star and twelve 4-star guys.  When you look at those breakdowns, this class will rival any class that Tressel has brought in during his time with Ohio State and means lots of success in coming years.

Oh yeah, and that #2 QB they got, Braxton Miller, is a dual threat QB that looks 100x better as a passer in HS than Terrelle Pryor ever did.  Where Pryor was more of an athlete playing QB, Miller is more of a QB that can run (and he can really run too!).

Here is a look at the entire class, courtesy of Scout.com.  And the link

http://ohiostate.scout.com/a.z?s=145&p=9&c=8&toinid=687&yr=2011

Pos Nat’l
Rank
Nat’l
Rating
Name
School, Hometown
Video HT/ WT/ 40 Commit Date Signed LOI? Commit School
OLB 1 Curtis Grant
(Hermitage HS)
Richmond, VA
6-3/225/4.66 02/02/2011 Ohio State
QB 2 Braxton Miller
(Wayne HS)
Huber Heights, OH
6-3/210/4.47 06/03/2010 Ohio State
DE 9 Steve Miller
(McKinley HS)
Canton, OH
6-4/230/4.73 10/30/2009 Ohio State
C 1 Brian Bobek
(Wm Fremd HS)
Palatine, IL
6-2.5/278 03/16/2010 Ohio State
OLB 5 Ryan Shazier
(Plantation HS)
Plantation, FL
6-2/210/4.50 12/17/2010 Ohio State
CB 5 Doran Grant
(St. Vincent-St. Mary HS)
Akron, OH
5-11/180/4.37 01/05/2011 Ohio State
DT 8 Michael Bennett
(Centerville HS)
Centerville, OH
6-3/280/4.90 05/16/2010 Ohio State
DT 10 Chase Farris
(Elyria HS)
Elyria, OH
6-6/265/5.30 03/16/2010 Ohio State
S 11 Ron Tanner
(Eastmoor Academy HS)
Columbus, OH
6-1/190/4.50 07/02/2010 Ohio State
TE 14 Nick Vannett
(Westerville-Central HS)
Westerville, OH
6-6/235 06/30/2010 Ohio State
DE 14 Ken Hayes
(Whitmer HS)
Toledo, OH
6-5/240/4.80 08/31/2009 Ohio State
MLB 14 Ejuan Price
(Woodland Hills SHS)
Pittsburgh, PA
6-0/235 01/17/2011 Ohio State
WR 19 Evan Spencer
(Vernon Hills HS)
Vernon Hills, IL
6-1/185/4.51 06/05/2010 Ohio State
CB 22 DerJuan Gambrell
(Rogers HS)
Toledo, OH
6-2/180 03/16/2010 Ohio State
WR 29 Devin Smith
(Washington HS)
Massillon, OH
6-1/175/4.55 06/17/2010 Ohio State
OG 22 Antonio Underwood
(Shaker Heights HS)
Shaker Heights, OH
6-3/295 03/15/2010 Ohio State
QB 24 Cardale Jones
(Glenville HS)
Cleveland, OH
6-5/215/4.55 02/02/2011 Ohio State
TE 24 Jeff Heuerman
(Barron Collier HS)
Naples, FL
6-5/240 04/26/2010 Ohio State
MLB 24 Conner Crowell
(North Point HS)
Waldorf, MD
6-1/220/4.70 11/05/2010 Ohio State
OG 27 Chris Carter
(John F Kennedy HS)
Cleveland, OH
6-4/325 03/15/2010 Ohio State
DT 30 Joel Hale
(Center Grove HS)
Greenwood, IN
6-4/290/5.00 06/07/2010 Ohio State
S 30 Jeremy Cash
(Plantation HS)
Plantation, FL
6-2/190/4.55 04/18/2010 Ohio State
OT 83 Tommy Brown
(Firestone HS)
Akron, OH
6-5/320 04/03/2010 Ohio State
LS NR Bryce Haynes
(Pinecrest Academy)
Cumming, GA
6-4/185 01/28/2011 Ohio State

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Buckeyes Fought the SEC, Injuries, and the Refs…And Still Won!

Posted by pacmanxu on January 8, 2011

Did you know that Ohio State was 0-9 in bowl games against the SEC?  I hadn’t heard…I must have missed the 489 thousand times it was mentioned over the last month.  The statistic dates back to 1982 and spanned 28 years, 3 head coaches, and about 1,000 players.  Can that really be called a trend?

The real stat was that Tressel, aside from being 4-3 in BCS games, was 0-3 against the SEC with two of those being national championship games.  That’s a relevant statistic.  The Bucks played well and ended the steak, despite a lot of things that did not go their way.

ANNUAL BOWL GAME BIAS

Why is it never mentioned that every bowl game that means anything is played in the South or the West?  It’s relevant, and not just because of locality to SEC and Pac 10 schools.  Northern teams generally build their teams and philosophies for the natural weather that occurs in the North.  So they always have a bad matchup with Southern teams that build purely around speed and throwing the ball.  I’d love to see all those pass happy Southern teams play their bowl games every year in the cold, rain, and snow.  Anyway, it’s a real issue that is laughed off or glossed over.  Buckeyes still won.

REFEREES

The Refs were from the ACC.  I honestly don’t know if they have any bias against the Big 10 or OSU, but it sure seemed that way.  They made some purely puzzling decisions.  I don’t know if they are that bad or were in Vegas the week before and bet on Arkansas.  The biggest offense was a safety call, when Arkansas pushed Dan Herron into the end zone from the 2 yd line and they didn’t put the ball where forward progress was stopped.  I’ve never seen anything like it.  Buckeyes still won.

INJURIES

The Bucks lost 3 starters on defense this year due to injury.  They lost 3 more just in the Sugar Bowl!!!  If that wasn’t bad enough, they lost all 3 guys from the secondary. Injuries to Chimdi Chekwa (All American CB), Jermale Hines (S), and Travis Howard (CB) left the Buckeye defense playing for most of the game with freshman 3rd and 4th stringers playing against one of the best passing offenses in the country.  Buckeyes still won.

DISTRACTIONS

If all that wasn’t enough, they came into the game with the big story being the suspensions to the 5 players, including Pryor, and the chest beating by ESPN analysts about how they should not be playing in the game.  They’re wrong, but I will get into that in another post.  It was all negative attention and things that took away from the focus of this game.  Buckeyes still won.

 

ONE LUCKY PLAY

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good.  The one thing that did go their way was a Pryor fumble that Arkansas batted around until it went into the end zone and Sanzenbacher picked it up for the first TD.  It was ugly but I’ll take it.

 

All of that was all that was in the way of OSU getting it’s first win against an SEC team in a bowl game…no big deal, right?  Sometimes you just really have to work for it and want it more than anything.  Congrats to the Buckeyes and screw the SEC.

God bless you all.

 

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March Madness Expansion Isn’t A Horrible Idea If Done Correctly: Will That Happen?

Posted by pacmanxu on April 3, 2010

George, pardon my trumping you on this issue because I know you’re working on something, but I imagine we’ll have some different points on this subject, so I’m opening up the debate.

So all the NCAA coaches want expansion for one reason only…not because there is so many great teams or because it will enhance the tournament product, but because it will help with their job stability.  That’s all folks.  There are some very good coaches that get fired for not making the tournament, but with 31 extra teams in the fold, that won’t be an issue.  And of course the NCAA is interested because it means 16 more games that will be on TV and 16 more games that yield ticket sales and advertising revenue.  However, that doesn’t make the idea of expansion a terrible idea.  But the NCAA has to nail this in order to get it right, and I’m skeptical that they will…they screw everything else up.

For all intents and purposes, this idea basically takes all the NIT teams and smooshes them into the NCAA field.  This year, that would mean that Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Dayton, Rhode Island, Utah State and other big name programs that were down or little programs that didn’t win their conference tournament would be in.  If you watched the NIT, there were some very good games, so it’s not like we’d be adding Fordham to the fold, but there is massive potential that we could see these extra spots filled with below-average big conference teams instead of very good smaller conference teams (just like in the current tournament selection).

Please keep the "madness" on the court, NCAA

Here are some suggestions so the NCAA doesn’t screw this idea up and make the tournament a watered-down, boring affair in the first weekend as opposed to the current version that has millions of people wasting work time or calling in sick just so they can watch.

  • The Field – There needs to be a balance between the “knowns and unknowns.”  Adding mostly big name schools will showcase bad teams that couldn’t even win half of their league games, but adding mostly small schools will make this a pointless endeavor because no one will watch.  It needs to be a 50/50 proposition where the scales of fairness and marketing are even.  The reason the tournament is so great now is because we get to see the little guy upset some big schools and have their legit shot at a title, but also because the cream rises to the top and usually the big guns make it appointment viewing in the Final Four.  Just duplicate what’s already working
  • Seeding – The top 8 seeds in each region will get a bye, but the issue is with the last 16 seeds in each region.  Right now, little schools that make the tournament are usually 14-16 seeds.  But they earned their way in via automatic bids.  If the committee seeds teams purely on how good they think they are, then what will happen is all of these schools will be seeded below bigger name schools that otherwise wouldn’t have even been in the tournament.  A rule should be put in place that says any automatic bid will not get lower than a 16 seed.  Based on pure match-ups, you might think this isn’t a big deal because they have to play in the first round anyway, but this idea goes a long with…
  • 1st Round Venues – the idea of having more neutral sites for games that will not sell tickets is ludicrous.  This new first round, or play-in round should follow the NIT’s path and have the higher seeded teams hosting this first round.  See?  Now it makes sense.  If automatic bids can’t be seeded lower than 16, then it will guarantee them a home game, where it definitely WILL sell out.  Now instead of North Carolina playing Murray State in a neutral site where there are 500 people, the game will be at Murray State.  Since expansion already screws the little guy in having to play and win another game, throw them a bone and give them a home game.  I guarantee all of these games will sell out and it won’t give any unfair help to the big guys or any excuses to the little guys…perfect.

    Let's not make it any harder for the small schools, OK?

  • Qualifications – Another potential problem with adding 31 more teams to the field is that we don’t want to reward mediocrity.  Personally I would favor an expansion to 68 teams, but since that won’t happen we have to protect the integrity of the sport from being corrupted.  Without restrictions or qualifications I could see 10th and 12th place teams from prominent conferences being let in just because of the name on the front of their jerseys, which would be awful for the tournament and the reputation of the NCAA.  How about some easy rules to live by that won’t ruin this great event?  Let’s just say that no team with less than an overall .500 record or less than .500 record in conference play can get in…solved.  This year, it would mean that from the BCS Conferences, South Florida, Seton Hall, Illinois, Arizona St., Arizona, Ole Miss, and Mississippi St would have gotten in, but Georgia Tech (7-9) would be out.  That also leaves 25 spots for other deserving teams to get in, like Dayton, Rhode Island, Memphis, Portland, Kent St., Princeton, UAB, Marshall, and Saint Louis.  These are all teams that had fantastic overall and within conference records that otherwise might be passed over AGAIN for the likes of Georgia Tech, Northwestern, Cincinnati, St. John’s, NC State, Texas Tech, Alabama, and other terrible teams that didn’t deserve anything.
  • Scheduling – Lastly, I’ve already heard they are considering staying with the Thursday start to the tournament and then finishing the second round on Tuesday and going to the Sweet 16 on the following Thurs/Fri.  How stupid of an idea is this??????  Again, keep it simple and go with what makes sense.  This new first round or “play-in round,” as I will always call it, should be played in the higher seed’s home court on the TUESDAY/WEDNESDAY  BEFORE the regular Thurs/Friday start of the tournament.  That gives each team two day from Selection Sunday to get to the venues and play and advance without screwing up the schedule that already makes this a special event.  Shockingly easy, isn’t it?  It also gives the seeds that get a bye a team on short rest.

All of these ideas make expansion work and entertaining, while still making the regular season worth something.  Bigger conference teams will scratch and claw to make it to .500 so they can get in, and those that don’t know that their conference tournaments will be their only shot.  It will also give credit to those who win their conferences and protect the committee from falling into the popularity trap.  It will also give clear guidelines that teams can shoot for as goals and not complain if they get left out.  Georgia Tech would almost certainly complain about getting left out (when they got in this year with a 7-9 conference record), but they would know going into the season that they had to be at .500…no one to blame but themselves.

Expansion will happen, so let’s hope the NCAA reads Battle For Ohio…all their answers are right here.

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